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The job interview...pay is not good and the hours are really bad.

July 23rd, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Ok, had my interview yesterday. My fears were confirmed.

The pay is a few hundred dollars/ year more than my old job. The hours SUCK. And the job is harder.

I don't know what happened. I just froze up when they told me the pay. I just quietly said "ok" and then he moved on.

So I'm not really feeling this job.

I need this job. But I'm already dreading starting this job.

I'm really disappointed in myself, frustrated in general. I thought writing would make me feel better but it is not.

Posted in Personal Finance | 16 Comments »

16 Responses to “The job interview...pay is not good and the hours are really bad. ”

  1. creditcardfree Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 12:28 pm 1406118490
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    Sorry it didn't meet your expectation.

    How does the work compare to the barn, the pay? Is it an improvement for your family to have this job? Would it be a stepping stone to get back into the traditional work force, while you look for something else?

  2. SecretarySaving Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 12:39 pm 1406119141
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    What were the hours? I totally get freezing and just saying ok and being totally disappointed. Hate when that happens. Send a follow up email and let him know that while you'd be interested in the job, you are expecting $3-5K more than what the position is paying and with having a little one you would want hours like 7-4 with half day Fridays (whatever your wanting). Then close by saying that you'd be glad to discuss further. Do you think you could be happy here with more money and better hours? If so, let them know that. Smile

  3. creditcardfree Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 12:47 pm 1406119647
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    I agree with SecretarySaving's suggestions. If you don't at least state what you want, if the job is even being offered, then you will never know if it would have worked out for you.

  4. CB in the City Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 12:48 pm 1406119697
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    Did they make an offer? I would not negotiate salary until there is an offer in hand. If they haven't yet decided that they really want you they'll simply write you off if you jump the gun and ask for more money and better hours.

  5. TashaC. Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 01:02 pm 1406120529
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    ok thanks! I'm feeling encouraged. The guy is calling me today to tell me if I have the job or not. But yesterday he told me they have not yet posted the job and have not considered anyone else for the job. I'm the only candidate right now. I think I nailed the interview- so I think they want me.

    I'm glad I may not have missed my window. When he calls today (if he offers me the job)...I'll say that "I took the night to think about it and I was expecting the job to pay $5k more." And then my friends coached me and told me to have an awkward silence.

    Do I go into my reasoning that I worked there for 4 years with 1 raise due to the pay freeze that went into effect? Do I go into the fact that my hours used to be 8-5 and now they want 10-7 with some Saturdays? How about that my quota used to be 5 and now it will be 25-75(students to bring in)? These are all reasons I see this job as less enticing...but I think I'll sound whiny if I state that...right?

  6. creditcardfree Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 01:06 pm 1406120805
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    If you want the job, I would not list your grievances from when you held the job before. They can't fix those and they are irrelevant at this point.

  7. TashaC. Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 01:17 pm 1406121438
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    ok good point.

  8. SecretarySaving Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 01:23 pm 1406121821
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    I agree. I wouldn't go into the past. Just state what you would like going forward. Working from 10-7 and some Saturdays is not enticing. Why the late hours?
    Would you be paid hourly and any extra hours worked be overtime?

  9. Butterscotch Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 01:53 pm 1406123623
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    10-7 sounds awesome to me because I like to sleep late! But if you're an early riser I can see how you would just want to get your days started once you're up and not hang out waiting to go to work. I hope you get the increase you want to make up for the hours you don't want. Would that make you enjoy the job more? Or would the hours be a crap in your lifestyle. I ask because in one of your previous posts you said you had to work weekends at the barn until 8pm...and here you would be working some Saturdays and 5 days a week until 7pm. I get that the money is better and the health insurance is there and all, but have you looked for other positions? Generally, in this economy is takes a few months, or longer, to land a job. How long have you been looking? Are you going back to this place because you feel like you cant find anything else? It you just want a job to cover bills and have insurance than go for it. But if your hoping to be happy, or at the very least not frustrated on daily basis, this doesn't sound right for you. You mention quotas (stress), if this a sales position? Is this hourly or salary? Is there a bonus structure that comes along with meeting these quotas or is it just meet your quotas to keep your job. Whats the incentive? Good luck with your negotiations!

  10. TashaC. Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 02:09 pm 1406124592
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    Thanks guys. The sucky job hrs really do maximize the hrs of the day that is best to meet the quotas. I kind of expected it but kind of was in denial about it. I was just expecting this job to start out above what I was making before. This job requires experience from my previous job. So I consider it a promotion.

    I'm just going to (try) to be tough. I hate being so disappointed in myself. I hate the idea of starting this job and being so resentful from the start.

  11. Bluebird Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 04:59 pm 1406134777
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    The awkward silence tactic has worked for me many times...don't crack and start talking! And if his response is not what you're looking for, ask again and be firm but professional. There are other jobs out there.

  12. Kiki Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 05:10 pm 1406135449
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    If this job would use skills you learned from an earlier position I would stop and write down all those skills to be able to defend my salary requirements. Have them listed and ready to go.

    And if the best they can do is a review in six months get it in writing.

    What is the reason for the hours to be worked?

  13. snafu Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 05:12 pm 1406135561
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    How much time have you devoted to this job search? If this is your initial foray, it sounds ok to me as an outsider. You know the people and what's expected. You get valuable health care and higher take home than your current 'barn job.'
    The hours are targeted to the marketplace to get your quota of students registered and paid. The most valuable point is that it's easier to get a new job when you are employed using important, workplace skills.

    If you get the anticipated offer, I suggest you massage their ego a bit. You can counter explaining how excited you are to return to their wonderful company but surprised to silence by the lower than expected pay point. You anticipated an annual salary of $___________. Is there any flexibility? Will there be an increase in say...3 months? Since you didn't them the interviewers your salary expectations I'd give them an opportunity to adjust. Is there any other non monetary benefit that would make this sweeter? Often the salaries have been worked into the operation's budget 15 months ago and it's in someone else's area.

    Wishing you the best outcome. Job search is hard work and stressfu;

  14. ND CHIC Says:
    July 23rd, 2014 at 09:08 pm 1406149688
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    Write down what you will say about the pay he calls. That will help you.

    Can you take this job and keep on looking for a job? Its easier to get a job if you already have a professional job.

  15. PatientSaver Says:
    July 24th, 2014 at 12:12 am 1406160726
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    Some excellent advice. here. I often write down my "script" of what I plan to say so I don't forget key points.

    Remember, your tone and attitude are everything. Don't feel like you're asking them for a huge favor. You're the one they want, so state with confidence what you want, in a nice way, not pushy/insistent, but not wimpy either. I would just ease into it by saying you know, I was a little taken aback when you told me the salary. I was hoping to get at least $xxxx.

    If he comes back with a number and you're still just not sure, you can always say you'd like to sleep on it, or discuss with your husband. So you can give yourself more time to think it over and, if necessary, negotiate some more.

  16. Looking Forward Says:
    July 24th, 2014 at 11:50 pm 1406245834
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    Did you get a call today?

    All really great points above!

    And this job offers 100% paid medical benefits for the whole family?

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